Thanks for those replies, very deep, and most interesting. I'm trying to preempt discussions that can happen in the future. I know one of the arguments for jws is that "we're unified. No one else is as unified as us. We worship the same all over the world, and despite local differences (facial hair, sideburn length, multiple ear piercings for the ladies etc) in the DOCTRINAL side of things there is absolute unity." And we point the accusative finger at churches for splitting over the issue of women priests or homosexuality etc. But in my mind our unity is ENFORCED, we can't believe something differently to what were told to believe, but a better unity would be a unity in common purpose but all embracing in opinion. I don't know why I'm bothering to ramble on, I'm not sure I even believe in a god anymore anyway... Just preempting future discussions.... Dhoh
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UNITY vs CONFORMITY - discuss.
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ini've read the walsh trial that indicates the societies stance of ' unity at all costs, even if we're wrong ' but that sounds more like conformity to me.
so how do other religions or movements justify the range of beliefs within their respective movements?
for example, the born again movement, a massive range of beliefs, but they don't insist on conformity.
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UNITY vs CONFORMITY - discuss.
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ini've read the walsh trial that indicates the societies stance of ' unity at all costs, even if we're wrong ' but that sounds more like conformity to me.
so how do other religions or movements justify the range of beliefs within their respective movements?
for example, the born again movement, a massive range of beliefs, but they don't insist on conformity.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
THAT - (where you quoted Jesus just then) is an OUTSTANDING point. Gonna have to see what the cdrom says about that verse....
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Grand daughter of deceased Governing body member Guy Pierce mentions being shunned
by Watchtower-Free inover on jwsurvey.org .
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-member-guy-pierce-dies-of-massive-stroke.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
She comments quite a few times and seems very balanced in her viewpoints.. It's terrible that she doesn't seem to be welcome at her own grandfather's funeral. Hardly Christian. For shame. If it's a public event we should all put money in, fly her there, and arrange for lots of local support for her when she arrives....
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Photography and HDR
by ILoveTTATT inas i have mentioned before, i love photography, and specially a technique called hdr.
hdr stands for high dynamic range, and it means the ratio of the "lightness" of the lightest spot in the picture to the darkest.. .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/high-dynamic-range_imaging.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
Good use of hdr that, not overblown , it's as the eyes would see it. I'm with you, if you can tell by looking at a thumbnail that it's hdr, then it's over processed .
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UNITY vs CONFORMITY - discuss.
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ini've read the walsh trial that indicates the societies stance of ' unity at all costs, even if we're wrong ' but that sounds more like conformity to me.
so how do other religions or movements justify the range of beliefs within their respective movements?
for example, the born again movement, a massive range of beliefs, but they don't insist on conformity.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
Interesting quote Barry, thanks for that. And yes that's a good summary lame and Fernando, it's funny how we as witnesses pride ourselves on our unity but can't see past the fact that it's enforced unity, not willing unity. And the fact that we actively criticise other faiths for practising interfaith, for being inclusive, unified DESPITE differences.
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UNITY vs CONFORMITY - discuss.
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ini've read the walsh trial that indicates the societies stance of ' unity at all costs, even if we're wrong ' but that sounds more like conformity to me.
so how do other religions or movements justify the range of beliefs within their respective movements?
for example, the born again movement, a massive range of beliefs, but they don't insist on conformity.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
I've read the Walsh trial that indicates the societies stance of ' unity at all costs, even if we're wrong ' but that sounds more like conformity to me. So how do other religions or movements justify the range of beliefs within their respective movements? For example, the born again movement, a massive range of beliefs, but they don't insist on conformity. If there's a range of beliefs then surely some of them are false. How do they justify that? I know the witness quote would be that we should worship with "spirit and truth", but as our truth changes on a monthly basis then that argument applies equally to us. Or them. I don't know if I've put my point across at ALL, such is my confusion. Can anyone who DOES believe out there help me understand your position? DHOH
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Archive you might want!
by Atlantis inhere is an old archive you might want.. reexamine archive.
.. nevada.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
Coffee and doughnuts.. Mmmmmmmm
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Ex 20:11. Two big problems for WT creation tradition. What's their best shot?
by Open mind insomehow the significance of exodus 20:11 has slipped right past my critical thinking skills for several decades.
"for in six days jehovah made the heavens and the earth, the sea and everything that is in them, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day.
that is why jehovah blessed the sabbath day and proceeded to make it sacred.".
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
Interesting piece. Not thought of that before. But then I'm finding that more and more lately.
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The Last BOE!
by Atlantis inthis is the last boe we will be able to provide.
our informant or source, was caught, disfellowshipped, and thrown out of bethel.
we knew that sooner or later the watchtower would find him out.
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This alone wants me to make my remaining time within the Borg fruitful by reaching out again.
Good man, please pass on our regards for his work over the years.
DHOH
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I did it !!!!
by snare&racket in7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
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disposable hero of hypocrisy
I'll be having a sneaky stout in your honour tonight man. Well done.